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Bx3 01-23-2009 03:28 PM

The States may be our last line of defense
 
Taken from the Montana State Legislature page

http://laws.leg.mt.gov/laws09/LAW0203W$BSRV.ActionQuery?P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&P_ BILL_NO=228&P_BILL_DFT_NO=&P_CHPT_NO=&Z_ACTION=Fin d&P_SBJ_DESCR=&P_SBJT_SBJ_CD=&P_LST_NM1=&P_ENTY_ID _SEQ=

HB 228
A BILL RESTORING THE RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE. Among other things, this bill reaffirms the right of Montanians to use firearms to defend themselves or others by providing that:

(1) A law-abiding person threatened with bodily injury has no duty to flee;

(2) A person may harmlessly and defensively brandish or display a firearm;

(3) A landlord, hotel, or motel may not prohibit firearms;

(4) An employer who bans firearms has a responsibility for protecting the employees;

(5) A concealed firearm may be carried without a permit unless used to commit a criminal offense; and

(6) Deadly force may be used in some cases to effect a citizen's arrest.



http://laws.leg.mt.gov/laws09/LAW0203W$BSRV.ActionQuery?P_BLTP_BILL_TYP_CD=HB&P_ BILL_NO=246&P_BILL_DFT_NO=&P_CHPT_NO=&Z_ACTION=Fin d&P_SBJ_DESCR=&P_SBJT_SBJ_CD=&P_LST_NM1=&P_ENTY_ID _SEQ=


HB 246
A BILL ALLOWING GUNS TO BE MADE IN THE STATE.
Among other things, this bill states that:

(1) Based on the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendments, a firearm, accessory, or ammunition manufactured in Montana which remains in Montana and is marked "Made in Montana" is not subject to federal law or regulation; and

(2) Raw materials from other states or generic or insignificant parts from other states do not render these provisions inapplicable to what otherwise is a Montana firearm.


Montana!:36_3_12:

Ares 01-23-2009 03:30 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Holy Sh*t!!

I need to pack up and move to Montana.

Dawg 01-23-2009 03:51 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
I sincerely hope this spreads. Actual wording varies from your post a little.

http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0228.htm

Thanks

Bx3 01-23-2009 04:01 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawg (Post 1527692)
I sincerely hope this spreads. Actual wording varies from your post.

http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0228.htm

Thanks

It was a summary from another site that I pilfered it from but its close enough.

Dawg 01-23-2009 04:05 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1527714)
It was a summary from another site that I pilfered it from but its close enough.

If it passes, I am moving.

Twisted Avatar 01-23-2009 04:07 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Make no mistake.

This Can fracture the Union.

If Eric Holder and the Brady Campaigners make sweeping rule changes that virtually regulate ammo and Black Guns out the hands of Honest folks

Certain States are not going to eat it......and all it will take is two states side by side to agree and poof!!!

You got the makings of an NATIONAL insurrection.

Watch and see.


T

Shoden 01-23-2009 04:08 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Nice! My wife and I were in NW Montana last summer visiting family and looking for land. If this passes, we may have to move up our purchase plans :applause_

Bx3 01-23-2009 04:12 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Don't forget Montana's statement/warning prior top the Heller decision. They in no short order announced that if the ruling went against the 2A, that it would nullify their original incorporation into the United States. Bx3

:36_1_32v:

sirgonzo420 01-23-2009 04:12 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
God Bless Montana!


:36_1_32v:

Twisted Avatar 01-23-2009 04:13 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bx3 (Post 1527747)
Don't forget Montana's statement/warning prior top the Heller decision. They in no short order announced that if the ruling went against the 2A, that it would nullify their original incorporation into the United States. Bx3

:36_1_32v:

Wow...........Montana is really showing that they have a pair and will swing em far and wide.


:RockOn::RockOn::RockOn:

SWRichmond 01-23-2009 04:14 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Awesome wording!

sirgonzo420 01-23-2009 04:18 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1527751)
Wow...........Montana is really showing that they have a pair and will swing em far and wide.


:RockOn::RockOn::RockOn:

Now only 49 more states need to do the same...


(or 56 more states* in Obama's Amerika :biggrin:)








* for those who don't get it, watch the video below



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Heimdhal 01-23-2009 04:23 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
I dont think Montana will be the last state to attempt such(and hopefully it will pass). I fear though that most of the other states will be the exact opposite. We've already seen once what happens when states try to assert their RIGHTS to cede from the corporation.

I wonder what the land prices are up in Montana......

sirgonzo420 01-23-2009 04:24 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1527772)
I dont think Montana will be the last state to attempt such(and hopefully it will pass). I fear though that most of the other states will be the exact opposite. We've already seen once what happens when states try to assert their RIGHTS to cede from the corporation.

I wonder what the land prices are up in Montana......

I don't think the land would be too bad...

But I wonder how many jobs there are up there...


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Heimdhal 01-23-2009 04:27 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1527776)
I don't think the land would be too bad...

But I wonder how many jobs there are up there...


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That is most certainly the big issues. We were looking at some larger acerage here towards the middle of the state(florida) which we really liked. The problem is there are NO JOBS at all.

We want to become more self sufficient but we figure at least one of us will need to work at lest part time, for the things that will still cost FRNs. Even that is hard to come across now.

Ares 01-23-2009 04:30 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Montana has Nuclear Silos, If they were to cede it would make things interesting if they were to take possession of them for their states protection.

Abouthadit 01-23-2009 04:32 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ares (Post 1527790)
Montana has Nuclear Silos, If they were to cede it would make things interesting if they were to take possession of them for their states protection.

Get a copy of Molon Labe and read it.

Plus, it has always been the sovereign state vs the federal leviathan. Make no mistake.

Twisted Avatar 01-23-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ares (Post 1527790)
Montana has Nuclear Silos, If they were to cede it would make things interesting if they were to take possession of them for their states protection.


Invade us and EVERYBODY will be glowing green.

Dawg 01-23-2009 04:45 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ares (Post 1527790)
Montana has Nuclear Silos, If they were to cede it would make things interesting if they were to take possession of them for their states protection.

For the most part they are empty. So are the ones in North Dakota.

Speaking of North Dakota, It has an actual fiscal surplus and they are having a boom of sorts thanks to the Bakken oil fields and the declining population. The majority of ND's population is older and dying off. The young ones have, or are in the process of leaving the state. ND is actually giving away home lots to try and attract new blood. You just have to get over the winters and the flat land. If you like skiing, you will need a tow rope and someone to drive the truck.

millwright 01-25-2009 02:15 PM

Re: The States may be our last line of defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1527733)
Make no mistake.

This Can fracture the Union.

If Eric Holder and the Brady Campaigners make sweeping rule changes that virtually regulate ammo and Black Guns out the hands of Honest folks

Certain States are not going to eat it......and all it will take is two states side by side to agree and poof!!!

You got the makings of an NATIONAL insurrection.

Watch and see.


T

Sounds good to me Twist. I can't wait for Tennessee and Kentucky to get together and succeed from this crappy union. Hillbillies unite.


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